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Torture Under Interrogation (videos, pics and commentary)

2 Secret Reasons that drove the US to Torture

by Chris Stevenson

When President Obama first publicly stated he wasn’t going to prosecute senior Bush administration officials for detainee torture back in early January, I pretended to have forgotten how obstinate, grudging and ungrateful these people can be. Surely they’ll just let out a sigh of relief and keep their pinched-lips shut, I thought. Yet in light of such graphic disclosures (known and much still-to-be-known), it seemed Obama was content to continue his inauguration-period Kumbaya with George and Laura and move on.

I overlooked how weak any silence or (God forbid) graciousness may look towards millions of W’s supporters who watched their hero flip-the-bird at the flat earth for 8 years. This is important because it bears mentioning that no other detainee suffered more harsh treatment at the hand’s of Bush’s military as that of Jose Padilla. According to Glenn Greenwald; author of How Would a Patriot Act? “The case of Jose Padilla is one of the most despicable and outright un-American travesties the US Government has perpetrated in a long time… But there has been no retreat from this behavior. Quite the contrary. The atrocity known as the Military Commissions Act of 2006 is a huge leap forward in elevating the Padilla treatment from the lawless shadows into full-fledged officially-sanctioned and legally-authorized policy of the US Government. The case of Jose Padilla is no longer a sick aberration, but is instead a symbol of the kind of government we have chosen to have.”

While I acknowledge Greewald’s great research on Padilla, America didn’t choose the Bush Administration. Most of us chose Al Gore, the US Supreme Court choose the Bush government. Which only made the situation even worse. Information on Padilla came after almost 4 years of sensory deprivation while inside a 9×7 cell. For two and a half of those years this American citizen was denied access to a lawyer, and contact with his family. Once again understand that no charges were filed against him. It’s not as if there weren’t any obvious enemy combatants out there; what about Luis Posada Carilles? Not a “dirty bomber,” but worse; a real bomber. This is a guy Bush could have unequivocally pinned an airplane bombing to, could’ve tortured him without outcry ’till the cows came home. Yet this terrorist roamed free for quite some time, with America leaving it only up to foreign courts to hunt down. He is currently locked up in El Paso TX on immigration charges. Looming in the distance is an overdue trial for a ’76 Cuban Airliner (Flight 455) bombing that killed 73 people.

The fact is/was while Posada Carillies was a CIA asset, Padilla is a CIA experiment. As described by attorney David Markus in his blog was “in an effort to gain Mr. Padilla’s dependency and trust, he was tortured for nearly the entire three years and eight months of his unlawful detention… it is worth noting that throughout his captivity, none of the restrictive and inhumane conditions visited upon Mr. Padilla were brought on by his behavior or any actions on his part. There were no incidents of Mr. Padilla violating any regulations of the Naval brig or taking any aggressive action towards any of his captors.” This was posted on 1/09. Two months later came news of the CIA destroying some interrogation tapes, twelve out of 92 in all. Much of this had to do with the secret simulated drowning.

Obama signed an order prohibiting the agency from using these procedures or as they called it “enhanced interrogation techniques” during his first week in office. In late April, less than two weeks after Obama released Bush Administration torture memos approving the harsh tactics, the Senate Armed Services Committee released a 232-page report condemning the abuse that began rolling in full swing two weeks after 9/11 and the treatment of detainees at Abu Ghraib, Gitmo and Afghanistan. A month later came news that interrogations undergone by prisoners such as Padilla weren’t the brainchild of the military. Author Alfred McCoy who was quoted in the Philadelphia Inquirer points to the world’s most infamous intelligence agency: “The CIA became involved in torture through a massive mind-control effort with psychological warfare and secret research into human consciousness that reached the cost of a billion dollars annually-a veritable Manhattan Project of the Mind.” McCoy’s book “A question of Torture: From 1950 to 1962” reveals a budget set aside by the US Government, a “black budget” that was never shut down and gained new life after the events of 9/11/01. Reportedly these torture methods weren’t physical. Of course abuse doesn’t have to be physical at all and those of the mental, psychological and emotional can have more damaging effects than actual body contact.

McCoy goes on to state that these are “all designed with a perverse stagecraft to evoke an aura of fear… the psychological component of torture becomes a kind of a total theater. A constructed unreality of lies and inversion, in a plot that ends inexorably with the victim’s self-betrayal and destruction.” This overview came before Padilla’s trial, as in the case of most interrogations the US outwardly hopes to gain more leads and names for more arrests. Evidently no such names came forth from Mr. Padilla after years of enduring this nonsense (unlike Zubaydah who was said to have talked after his interrogation. Needless to say, he had more to reveal than Padilla). In other words he either has an extraordinarily strong will, or he simply knew no one or nothing to reveal.

Why Bush had the military push on for so long seems to be a betrayal of something deeper. I’m convinced Bush knew very well Padilla was essentially not a terrorist, but at worst only a former member of a street gang. This makes for an interesting statement about the young former-Chicago resident’s character; It’s well known you can get most street thugs to sing any song you want ghetto-snitch-rule not withstanding. Especially through the sophisticated torture tactics Padilla experienced. Most gang-bangers are only tough within the combined safety of their numbers. My underlining suspicion was the Bush Administration wanted us to believe the same thing regarding Padilla that he wanted the world to believe about his reasons for invading Iraq; to manufacture concrete evidence to present to the world that Irag was directly connected to 9/11. Any disclosure by Padilla, whether true or not would have (at least in his mind) given him much credibility in his scorched-earth campaign My 2nd underling reason for this torture was to fulfill the sadistic fantasies of certain well-know Bush officials, because the major media has been very unwilling to connect the dots in this.

The same day the SASC report was released, the AP reported that Obama was contemplating an interrogation of his own against the Bush Administration, adding the the US lost “our moral bearing.” The President also said he could support a congressional probe as long as it was bipartisan. If Obama does prosecute it would likely be in-no-small-part due to the recent antics of his distant cousin and former Vice President Dick Cheney. Talk about family drama, Cheney has been making appearances on mostly conservative-friendly talk shows spitting out some revisionist history about his former administration’s need to torture. In mid-February Cheney told CNN’s John King that Obama’s post-inauguration decisions made the country less safe: “I think those programs were absolutely essential to the success we enjoyed of being able to collect the intelligence that let us defeat all further attempts to launch attacks against the United States since 9/11.” It’s not as if Obama wasn’t always wary of Cheney, he cited Dick back in January: “Vice President Cheney, I think, continues to defend what he calls extraordinary measures or procedures when it comes to interrogations and from my view waterboarding is torture.”

Cheney’s rants should fall on deaf ears once it’s commonly known he has a financial stake in an American private penal facility essential to the abuse he enjoys. Among his investments is a company that runs detention centers in Texas. Apparently Cheney owns part of the Vanguard Group; a firm that has been under some scrutiny for-what else-prisoner abuse. Both Cheney and former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales were indicted (but not arrested) back on 11/20/08 for charges relating to “organized criminal activity.”

Beneath news of Obama contemplating Bush Administration prosecution and refusing to release the latest set of torture photos obtained by the ACLU, Rice recently gave a rather nervous sounding set of lies to a room full of Jewish 4th Graders. One of them asked her a highly censored question as to if given the chance, would she do things differently (the original question according to the child’s mother was “If you would work for O’bama’s Administration, would you push for torture)? Rice-no doubt reciting the same lines she memorized for university students’ questions-answered: “Let me just say that President Bush was very clear that he wanted to do everything he could to protect the country. After September 11, we wanted to protect the country, but he was also very clear that we would do nothing, nothing, that was against the law (really?) or against our obligations internationally. So the president was only willing to authorize policies that were legal in order to protect the country. I hope you understand that it was a very difficult time. We were all so terrified of another attack on the country. September 11 was the worst day of my life in government, watching 3,000 Americans die. . . . Even under those most difficult circumstances, the president was not prepared to do something illegal, and I hope people understand that we were trying to protect the country.”

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LOL! Condi ought to be ashamed of herself BS-ing a group of 4th graders, but if some of them dozed-off during those 785 words (I gave you the condensed version), then they may have missed it. The really embarrassing aspect of her visit is how some of the school’s officials took it upon themselves to censor the student’s question. The student’s mother also said her son had effectively been pressed by school officials not to use the word torture (the questions were screened in advance). Condoleezza a word of advice. Don’t treat a group of grade school kids like they’re the 9/11 Commission. A simple ‘yes’ or ‘no’ is fine.

Obama may also be clearing the way to backtrack on his promise of over 120 days earlier not to have the Bush bunch face legal consequences. Recently he vowed not to prosecute CIA employees, his Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel said he wouldn’t seek indictment of Bush Administration lawyers. Whom then does that leave Obama to mess with? The same people trying to villify him after he told the world he would cut Bush and his gang-bangers; Cheney, Rove, Condi, and Rumsfeld a break. Does this mean Gonzales (who said the Geneva Convention was “obsolete”) may skip charges altogether? Obama’s detractors claim this wouldn’t be good for national morale, I call it a royal flush.

It probably doesn’t help the former Bush Administration’s case that we now know that the alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Muhammad was reportedly water-boarded a whopping 183 times back in March of ’03 alone and that the alleged al-Qaeda Chief of Logistics Abu Zubaydah 83 times back in 8/02. What many don’t seem to get is, it’s not just the torture alone that’s the issue, it’s the Bush policy that precedes and led up to it that make it necessary to shut down and seek indictment. That the Military Commissions Act may have swept up some actual planners of 9/11 doesn’t justify the methods. Two towers in New York don’t make a right; the right to randomly choose anyone as an enemy. We learned this much from Jose Padilla.

Chris Stevenson is a syndicated columnist, and writes for the Buffalo Challenger, contact him at pointblankdta@yahoo.com

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1 Comment on "Torture Under Interrogation (videos, pics and commentary)"

  1. There is no human action perhaps more offensive than torture. Nothing. It’s something I have given much thought to, and something that genuinely cuts through my soul. And the fact that we are capable of unleashing so much terror on each other as human beings is perhaps the greatest indication of our underlying savagery.

    I don’t believe torture to be exclusive to the Bush administration though, even if the orders (all of the sudden making news) were conducted under his administration’s watch. The war was an unjust one – if there is ever a just war – so everyone, including the established media, the Democrats (whom a number of them had voted for the war themselves), the general public, and passionate university students are able to show genuine fury against a departing administration. The fact they left a miserable economy behind doesn’t help their cause either.

    But had the war been just, popular, won, and the Republicans still in power, would so much noise have been made? Indeed, where was all the noise from the media when the Bush administration first went into Iraq? Right behind him, even if they’re showing themselves to be quite the critics today.

    The university student may have been right in noting the tremendous human toll of World War II that still left American humanity intact, but he forgets the Cold War contest that followed shortly after in which America propped up brutal regimes which extensively relied on torture.

    It’s nice that we can have all this openness right now, with 4th graders even raising moral questions of such stature. When I was in grade 4, I was still preoccupied with dolls, so kudos to this little girl who came up with the question all by herself. But being the cynic that I am, I cannot help but to wonder why all the noise now? So that the next time America goes to war, for politicians to be more transparent? Unfortunately, history is always written after the fact, and openness celebrated and welcomed in good times, so let’s not hold our breaths now…

    ~Addis
    apoliticalbeing.com

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